This is What Democracy Sounds Like is a podcast brought to you by the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin covering government, hot issues and voting! For its second episode, host Carol Koby talks with Carlene Bechen about the new maps and what's next for the fair maps movement. Carol Koby: Carol Koby retired in 2020 as Executive Producer and Host of All About Living, a weekly radio she hosted for 18 years on Mid-West Family Broadcasting stations. Previously, Carol moderated Picture of Health, a cable television series produced by the University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics. In earlier years, Carol Koby was the first women’s director and a news reporter at WITI-TV, Channel 6, in Milwaukee, and consumer advocate, news reporter, and public affairs moderator for WKOW-TV, Channel 27, in Madison. Carlene Bechen: Carlene Bechen is an organizer with the Fair Maps Coalition, a coalition of several Wisconsin organizations, including the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin, working to ensure representative government for all by advocating for an independent and nonpartisan redistricting process. Carlene is a former public school teacher and she lives in Oregon, WI.